FW5-STX - Standalone

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  1. David Kruse

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    I am a longtime SBIG user and have a 8300 setup (ST-8300M, Sti, & FW5-8300), and also a ST-2000XCM with AO-7.

    However, I recently got a great deal on a used Apogee CM16 (183020 chip) camera and then found a FW5-STX 65 mm filter wheel & filters.

    1. Is it possible to run the FW5-STX in standalone mode? Using either the I2C or rs232 port?

    2. If not, can I use the SBIG dll's to write my own control?

    3. If 1 or 2 are not possible, is the I2C information available for the FW-5-STX? That would allow me to at least write my own ASCOM control using an Adruio as the master?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Doug

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    It should be possible to run the FW5 from the serial port, via CCDOPS.

    MaxIm DL has an option in the SBIG Universal driver for selecting a COM port also. IIRC it was originally added for CFW-10, but it should also work for FW5.
     
  3. David Kruse

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    Thanks, and I have it working in MaxIm DL in serial port mode. However, ideally I need to use this as an ASCOM device to interface with other software I am writing. Is this possible? Or is it possible to just get the RS-232 filter wheel commands? I assume there is probably one simple command that sets the desired filter wheel position.
     
  4. David Kruse

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    I sorted out the serial port commands used to run the FW5-STX filter wheel. Its was really simple. It then took me about 20 minutes to make a fully functional ASCOM universal driver of the FW5-STX which now works perfectly in Sequence Generator Pro, or anything else using ASCOM. Can I ask why SBIG doesn't provide end users with a standalone ASCOM driver for all their filter wheels?

    It's a great product so why limit its use to ONLY SBIG cameras, or having to have a SBIG camera connected?

    Also, as the COM port was so simple, I may just write a quick universal I2C driver too so I can control my other SBIG filter wheels by themselves as well. A cheap $20 Arduino board could act as the master to the ASCOM driver.

    Is there a pdf out there of the SBIG commands for I2C to set filter wheel positions?
     
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  5. Doug

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    The I2C protocol is not the same for all wheels, and that interface is considered proprietary. Most of the wheels are mechanically tailored to fit on our hardware. The FW5/FW7 is very different in that regard.

    For wheels that support serial protocol, that is open. It's been a long time since someone asked - pretty sure I have a protocol spec document somewhere, but I couldn't find it. Will try again when I have a moment.... though it's probably moot since you figured it out.
     
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  6. Russell Croman

    Russell Croman Cyanogen Customer

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    Hi David,

    I'm interested in a similar application for an FW7-STX. Is this simply a matter of connecting the filter wheel to the computer via a USB-to-RS-232 adapter? Can MaxIm talk to it in a straightforward way after that?

    Thanks,

    Russ
     
  7. Doug

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    I believe MaxIm DL will work if you set Filter Wheel to SBIG Universal and select Model to CFW-10 Serial, and COM Port as appropriate.

    I've not tested it but it's almost certainly the same protocol.
     
  8. Russell Croman

    Russell Croman Cyanogen Customer

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    Thanks, Doug. The filter wheel should be connected via it's RS-232 port, not the I2C port, correct?

    -Russ
     
  9. Doug

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    Correct.
     
  10. Russell Croman

    Russell Croman Cyanogen Customer

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    What are the specs on the FW7-STX's power connector? Need both voltage range and the dimensional specs of the jack so I can fashion a cable. Couldn't find the info in the manual.

    Thanks,

    Russ
     
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  12. Russell Croman

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    Perfect... thanks much!

    -Russ
     
  13. Joe Zajac

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    Hi David,

    I'd like to convert my CFW9-V2 to run without connected to an SBIG camera.

    It seems you have succeeded in doing this for the FW5-STX.

    Can you provide any help?

    Thanks
    Joe
     
  14. Doug

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    It is not simple to do that. The FW5-STX has a built-in serial port. The CFW9 does not.
     
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