How does 2000xm plug into LX200 10" for autoguiding?

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  1. AstroMike

    AstroMike Standard User

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    I would like to start imaging again but cannot remember how I used to plug my SBIG 2000xcm into my LX200 for autoguiding. Do I just use the standard grey cable that came with my camera and plug that directly into the "CCD" port on the front panel of the LX200? I don't want to cause any of the electronics to fry so wanted to be sure that I plugged it into the right place before trying.
    I used to remember plugging two cables into the RS232 port on the LX200. I used a "phone splitter" (2-to-1) so that two cables could be plugged into the one RS232 port at the same time. One of the items that I was plugging into the RS232 port via the splitter was the cable that allowed me to control my scope via computer with Starry Night Pro. I can't remember what the other cable was for that I plugged into the RS232 port as well.
    Do I plug the grey SBIG cable directly into my LX200's RS232 port instead?

    It seems to me that I heard somewhere that the "CCD" port on the front of the LX200 was for older stand-alone autoguiders like the Pictor, etc.. Will the CCD port even handle/manage auto-guiding for the 2000 camera series if there is not a stand-alone guider involved?
    I have searched hard and long on the internet and even combed by original manual and have not been able to come up with a definitive answer. I would greatly appreciate any input you have if you have previously used a LX200 with your SBIG camera. I head back overseas in two days and was hoping to get my camera/telescope system up and running before then.

    Much thanks,

    Mike
     
  2. Colin Haig

    Colin Haig Staff Member

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    Mike - I have a LX200 7" Mak.
    I'm assuming yours is a LX200 classic, not a LX200GPS or ACF.
    The CCD port on the LX200 classic is the guider input port to the mount, and works with most cameras with an ST-4/SG-4 guider output port using the standard RJ12 SBIG flat cable.
    The camera is not opto-isolated, neither is the mount. Some folks had a relay /isolator box that they used in between.

    The classic LX200's body is not grounded - it's a couple volts higher, and the ST-2000 is not at the same ground potential.
    So some people would use a relay box.
    I don't remember what I used to do.

    RS232 splitter - in the old days, before ASCOM Device Hub or POTH let you share a single connection between multiple applications, one serial connection went to MaxIm, and one went to Starry Night.

    NO !!
    That could permanently damage both the camera and the LX200.
    There's +/- 12V on that RS232 port.

    FALSE.
    The original SBIG people defined a "standard" for guider ports - the ORIGINAL stand-alone guider was the SBIG Star Tracker 4 (eg the famous ST-4) and all the cameras with guider ports since then.
    Meade followed that "standard" back in the 90's.
    The ST-7 with the internal guide sensor uses the same connection.
     
  3. AstroMike

    AstroMike Standard User

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    Colin,

    Thank you VERY much for this valuable information!

    Mike
     

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